Shane Strickland (Killshot from Lucha Underground)

Friday, November 4th

Steve Migs sat down with pro-wrestler, Shane Strickland, about how he will be wrestling for Defy Wrestling in Seattle on 1/13.  Shane will be taking on Cody Rhodes - get info at  Shane is one of the best independant wrestlers (go see some of his matches with CZW), and you now see him on Lucha Underground as Killshot.  Follow Shane on Twitter/Instagram: @ShaneStrickland


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I'll put this way I'll feel free you're playing your phone I don't care. Remember this root -- reason I don't these days those feels like that's just our conversation view bomb like our odds have to accept the fact that they're not gonna age yeah yeah a new age I don't force I on the all of my wife is trying to get ahold of me but I never one like you on my dad I don't want to reroute. Yeah and pulling out and Mike. Stiff arm a lot done deal with their head they can finally check out and say hey I'm running late exactly the whole world trying to contact your one time. I remember a good way to start things got Steve makes different KI a study Ramirez James Strickland kill shot. Our man. I'm a million questions are so it's going to be a lot of bouncing around a very eighty deep up on this do it says you're wrestling on the very said he talked to you my favorite superstar that's. Wrestle lying in a huge underground. Personal start off with the states. Every time introduce use that skill shot from Tacoma Washington yes. I see and your NC Graham you mentioned how you were coming back to the northwest. And I think you said that you haven't been here since your two weeks old Laura yeah. Made conceived somewhere in that process San I was born to go watch a military base. And two weeks later us flown to Germany Frankfurt Germany and has lived there. Seven years old. And after that we flew back to the states and the East Coast and Pennsylvania. And have pretty much bounced around from Pennsylvania and Virginia. Till I was like 817 and then there's a military. So then maybe it's a stupid question and is that your choice to say that your from Tacoma wash him what was the did did the decision process behind that because it sounds like as if yet this is where you're from even really get yes a home. And a sense slowly like gum. I don't never really had like a hometown heroes really was armed nominally an alcoholic. Because abuse should be said Seattle Tacoma should be Germany's Jack you've Pennsylvania should be Virginia I only have 1 because I am I grew up all over the place yeah. Saw figures is a C Tacoma wash and it was just like boot. Legged just don't rate us different from where bios because like gum. Especially you like what I was wrestling on the East Coast are abuzz Philadelphia Philadelphia and new York and Philadelphia Philadelphia major stands out like I'm Tacoma Washington and blame all this is different so hall so that might. He got more is for some reason. A lot more people on Twitter and social media would always jump on me and the like need and that's politically represented Coleman in no I don't know but now I look like it is. Like he'll say then why reps this place meant they think he's a late may I got Kansas from you know you just from red in Tacoma all of this the Minnesota and now here is from Tacoma Washington. I'm on the tundra like that's my god it's great and then on my comment is called Quetta watch and watch and then of course I mean I'm sure you've talked a million times about that the weapons of mass destruction mad death occurred which I remember I get to watch a museum day or two later to you because my work schedule I get up at 2 in the morning so staying up late to watch some gender grounds not my. Cards but the Nextel watch it. My boss he's also wrestling videos and some guy he's that you need to watch salute to tonight so much why in these I. Growth this match between Joseph shot Marty a mock is one of the most ridiculous and insane matches and so I get home I watch it I'm just like. Okay I'm now not only must have viewers because Iran's goal watching that it's nice to cement to the fact that you're the best thing going on in the rotunda and the things that you and Mardy were dealing. Our man can Boeing satellite what was that that match like Chris I mean I would imagine a lot of people are asking you about it oh yeah. Like. Those of creative process between knew it was Ozzie just Myanmar you mines put together focus on your your save gas yes REF. Marty I'm always the oil market is minus set up he's like him he's he's like actor on the side. So the camera working on that was mainly him that story that aspect of where he'd let had a lot of input with that. So he knew exactly how this should look this they should look this camera shy should be here the timing for this all those things was the elements that. Me owls more like. Like a man like in every bomb. They gimmick up wrestling match everybody like teases some teases some well like let's just hit it was due. Really hit it yeah that's what I must say you like all right I'm there are few if I'll be there if you naming him yup. Do it could label it Jesus this Jesus never hits it nor like no let's do it right because there aren't and I. And for you I mean you've you've done some pretty extreme matches over the camera first when I first was introduced it was a dud of the panes of glass and yes which was just. I mean I I I was in pain watching you wrestle in that match but I mean talk as literally falling off the bike. Re going really fast then did the sword you get are like all over you so just here although unique this got to tell I've got to paint a picture for those that are listening I dike. Imagine you watch him wrestling ECB stable matches they got the tables on goes to the table we like all my god that's it that's insane now replaced that table with just this month extremely big piece of glass. Yeah and then like on not only that one leg though when you go to a table or you hit a latter chairs on going that. The pain like lingered but has gone after awhile and then you can move the chair in the table out of the way you this is not gamer glasses stays in the ring so anything else you do after that you can't you continually landing in glass. And like sometimes like glass shards of glass but like so small the particles are so small like he'll find portable you like a week days later. After you showered it many times I remember leg on Sammy Callahan yeah calm he didn't like one crazy is caged death match is ever an easy W the years ago. And he was like a month later support out of shard of glass out of tastes because it just lies in there because you couldn't you get so deep and they're so small you don't see and you'll feel it right now at your body naturally just pushes them out right now and like an after lossless we'll glass does CO. I'm freaked out about it splinter sometimes yeah and now consuming for the entire day I sound a little bit and you guys got glass sticking your body's roadways on and until I put my mind away from isn't on the news delight. Did isn't about to happen but like I'm Blake. Because you can't Mike Fink too much about it to them Muehlegg. We start thinking about stuff feast our second guessing it like nor should we or should do this or should the right you don't naturally. The present your body to the situation he's got diverted got to just go via. And then throughout that that kind of a match where you put yourself do some extreme panic goes even with the weapons of mass destruction actually to to kind of I feel like. Is there a point while all this is going on that you're not feeling it the adrenaline the crowd or is it that you're feeling every single moment. Oh yeah fill every time bill every time well I got this like I like full boy you Phil you feel pain death it's it is you there's a difference between being. Hurt in being injured then I do other mentos hurt but I wasn't injured. As long electing give back up and keep going I'm not. Down I got you in yeah that makes sense I never thought about it like that put as many settings are not that I'm ready to go through glass at any employee not too many people are not they don't impress on that Antonio characters watching you read death after I apps so for UN does he DC he's this EZW and you know obviously. You've been doing independent wrestling scene for awhile and then you get picked up without each underground which from what I'm hearing the interviews that I paid attention to that. It's a whole different animal in the sense that it's a television show it's a television show first and of course there's wrestling going numb but. Does that change the way that you wrestle does that change awaited new approach things that all of a sudden you're not. Just doing a wrestling match but you're actually on the worry about our director or or the way that it's written nor the way that it's it's it's marked. It does change it but not allude to the extent morial you takes. Good arm art of wrestling out of it if anything it makes us more creative because now everything I'm doing in the rain. Goes to the it relates to an episode that I did last season. Like those like little like you know you watch like Walking Dead were really watch who's really really ratios are com. He like army and that's the character he does still and I from this character from season two episode this yeah I mean like army in the marina bag that's really cool and lewd and Lucia we get to do that kind of stuff we get to do those little things. We have to have likable relics yet calm we forgot about in east end and beginning of season two in me to bring out and the match quality. And season three. So hard that changes are wrestling imaging it can change our character and change what we do it contains like all I can do then move anymore because this person stole my soul from. This season. So I care I now wind do that out so that changes how you wrestle there that Jay like all palm so they're pretty open to hearing Mike like oh yeah you say hey look this is. That's not forget what happened last see exactly exactly that's going off and sometimes like this sometimes a 6048 the talent. With the writers but sometimes who go I'm like these since we're doing a character shift now when we're really going this way with the character. Aren't they should be doing this anymore or my wardrobe has to be different more like. Like mass record Lisa say there's some commentary now we're like go and blow. Maybe I should tell Maine I shouldn't touch most centers is much maybe I shouldn't maybe I can like talk to the fans initially moaned and maybe I can see like. Maybe should I should. Bring all of cheer the fans on come on I want or maybe I should like ignore the fans bring all those elements make up the character and what we do in the ring. Every single thing in his soul lake small classrooms must run its itself so much fun it's so creed of it's like com. Mike. Like go there episode now despaired with in Prague about two weeks ago with Tom Fox coming in yeah. Which end there any arm and he goes by a dud Dante. On day and equipment okay could've done that make it a hundred something fox as well you know you'll you'll find that out later all right so I can't I'm I'm really up today you must product to get it can't just me can't meg a spoiler is Adam I know what's going on TV you know which is seen indicted Jesse Jesse solid points on a tough though. That's the test I actually got a call from engineers are trying to screw it up you don't you can't get give me he gave gimme a bomb. Sold. They've kept the character paradigm with kill shot in season two was they he's fighting someone bigger. Crazier. Are more powerful more relentless. Am I on the opposite side of the coin I have a conscience I know what's right and what's wrong I know like he's strong enemy. That's smile that's the weakness this the strengths and the weaknesses none of these cut of these characters he's bigger he's stronger and I'm faster and a more combat oriented. So that's our strengths verso weaknesses someone who has a car just someone who doesn't. That's the paradigms between killer shot Maher tomorrow. Basically a bad man vs Joker take. Type deal yes an antagonist protagonists right now right as those that agree to any good entertainment Wright is a pretty easy story to tell instead just like oh he's good he's bad but. What lake. What makes. Duff combat different how do I overcome these his strength tomorrow weaknesses then how does his weaknesses. Like hinder him that I take advantage of Sosa pretty much again the tests now with fox coming in. We're very much similar so how to white face someone that's very much to me. I gotcha yes you know so and it's also like there's so much more elements of the story that we and need to change initials a different side of the coast I cared that goes ahead. Is that hard for you Chris it's like almost a you're living two lives near you your change Strickland and then your kill shot. Is it as there are moments where you're just like OK I got a really rethink how I'm wrestling because it's not. This is not change Strickland wrestling in the rest. On knows more fun honestly yes this way more fun. Bombed you pretty much if you look at LA go alternate universe. Bomb because exchange certainly must sell for her then the killer sec character they both had the same boring and I'm going growing up they both had military. Now. Know the differences change Strickland completed the military and became. Oh he's a hero he's actually completed he was a good aid star soldier. You know kill shot and men in the military. And is that he's a wall and he's a man in them anything they come pretty much a bad soldier. But he's with a good conscience so he did bad things change or when the good thing and so premise to alternate universe is if kill shot was a good soldier he would be saying Strickland. But he's not so his. Kill Shia I'll catch those pretty much should be nice wolf. Parallel universe is. That's got to be as it does yeah I would imagine it has to be a blast in the oh yeah I mean when you're taken aback because it's. It almost feels like could I heard an interview recently with some of the creators of some of the guys behind each underground and there's certain characters that they had and then they found the wrestler to fit the character Renaissance. Like that probably is what worked happened with you means cents. It's me it was a little different because I'm I came in on a fear from ricochet and hit like I. They like Meehan to blow mergers are really good really good friends right and armed literally out my email for the with a contract and lieutenant on delay your friends are Trevor how are so. Would you like contract. Who literally influence there so no in the right people who get to places yeah. But dom. They just knew they wanted to could mean a mass but they didn't know the character a guy pretty much came with everything OK I wrote I read that you said something to be senator you writing the back story a US kill shot his which. They muscle while they pay the Somalia or purposely because he's a one I just had could I imagine look cool people but I had no direction and that's not a fault of them is just like I didn't. And and asked for that I'd and password. I mean anything more so when we did those a seal won the season to break. I was like OK I'm them like credence the back story to this character very Smart of you and I were like three different stories like leg pretty. They go paragraph teach her not long. And they're very like broad of a story for like the greatest concluding anything they want but is very relaxed fit me and I feel like I could. Actually act this out and beat become this there was some outside and do what I couldn't go ahead and do and and I'm up to our senate's the head writer. He liked it alive any combined all three of those elements in some way. So when I came back and see in two. They have me prepared to do all the stunts in the desert and do all the action scenes and shooting so they just added all those elements and then they economy did. Well organic paying in interest costs the sort of growing. Then a salon that is you have a military background the background right to do those kindness because I recently did a video piece where are shooting a gun and yeah I dad like consultants only grown like just. Please make sure I'm holding the gun the right way right to do it could and of course like I was she like an assault rifle and it was slightly off my shoulder and man. All it is very deserved and you know Seattle in the northwest and a lot of military and have you ever been like you're shooting your raw now like I am trying. So I would imagine Madonna like gosh this is great he knows how to shoot the guy he has had a good. Yeah I mean that guy. I mean deserted grass still need they have like thumb a special forces guy who loved military expert like. At like full pull on an expert on weaponry so like any like I had I had like slight little. Notifications to make ya go holding a handgun in a bill like only the Euro on. If you're like a regular person shooting Gagne you hold that they dispatcher. You're of special forces like ranger here are injure some spewed mortar Blake lethal when that right now you're Mormon expertise she got a hold of like this you gotta. Boom when you do this he needs changes and get back to here so I need to be like Wayne Moore. I had advanced that it then of the average person holding guns side like crash course lessons on like ten minutes to get re issued. Matter. But then there was like parts I had elect. Like get the guns disarm then count this take this person's guy and so like I had to take the first in the gun out of this person's. Think taken downing give rednecks that listen it was so tricky. But after Sony talk about finally end up getting it. And others had pretty cumbersome blooper real that's gonna be released one day Obama got MS Myers saying that doesn't always doing a man what is he doing out there is god is at the character Joseph says that the first time that you Don the mask yes ever. Is that. Is there a weird transition and is is breathing differently is act and yet this nest is and that's hard because there's a lot of open holes write it but if I had pumas amassed a need for you miserable I don't know how I some of those guys but Aerostar I don't I don't get it yeah SR lies are close rod out here he had did Drago mask is very like. Comic clunky if you have ever like been around him and felt his mask like outside like when he takes all of you Philly is like wow this is like. Some heavy. But it's like very abnormally late. If you wait is via the role on the ground stuff with a is just weird breathless with her tail on the back as we are whoever is wrestling tour and had to grab on to hit guys it's very like uncomfortable to a certain degree though so for you know was it was not anything that you remember that do you ever hope that eventually that on and on which underground that the mass will come off. Thumb out and hope. Yeah maybe I'm I'm visiting your notes for future us tonight. That doesn't element mom I'm cool with either way like what I like to Leo alleged from a phase debacle but like if I don't if it doesn't need it. Men Nam okay do on this I'm okay same with it. Thankfully wrestling is a medium that has very strong and passionate fans via so. BI and and other worlds I would be like when you know that that could hurt did he ever brand New Year's change Strickland you want people to see what you look like know what you're all about right a mask lenders that no way. But and wrestling insight I think it doesn't matter because people. Are so passionate. That there's gonna go straight define who we always this guy and in a match or death or where she Strickland wrestling other than. Here or there or did this in depend enjoy that end of an inch or so absolutely it's nice that the Internet is there further up hardcore wrestling fans exactly. Recently I've watched I watched a lot of just all types of wrestling and I was watching the network going back and and and obsessing over a Saturday night's main event. Yes and I never paid attention because as a kid I don't you don't realize that. Things are done for the purpose like their Hollywood being an up you know like what how. All the crowd noise is completely pipe down and I'm watching my mom Matsch said these days would get crucified by the fans Zia. But back then because of the feet. Crowds in the fake noise it's like Wasatch and entertaining match even though it technically isn't great. And sounds like kind of conflicted about that because I mean I enjoy the realism of what wrestling is becoming I think independent wrestling is really bled into. Until that the WW reason and yeah yeah I mean it's the you can tell there's a giant and whether or not though amid to a there's a giant influence yes. But sometimes crowds get the better of the actual match and I imagine as a wrestler is frustrating is that challenging on the. It's it's definitely. To me sometimes it's a little disheartening is discouraging to the performer because sometimes like old men is. Did they not care about me. Doing some risky stuff still. They in this but some fans legislate against it. Or I just chaining for another hold other match brand or person promote their gem in the 2 people may morning and on the show yeah is very discouraging. It is and and. For me I'm just like you know I go. Go to live events and are as much dressing and I possibly can and I just gonna enjoy it but I guess I never seen. A medium or a form of entertainment where it's like. The fans throughout their criticizing the writing decisions but in turn what they're doing is. Did it it it it's impacting the wrestlers at a bus Merrill and rang and it's like it's to me it just makes my head hurts trying to figure out what. How we come to this point how do we get out of that kind of momentum among set. Is this is the set so it's a point where slate. Everything's so expose him and I want to give lake fans of the script in 010 I. They don't wanna watch the show and enjoy anyone and just write their own show. There's no question yeah sometimes I might just be patient maybe it's gonna and the way I hope it is but it's gonna take six weeks I can. And Alice lake formed there's like forms were everybody's a critic on everything that is an wrestling and everything and everything like that. All this album should you were in this way this show like I can't stand Walking Dead they killed these two people like how could they do this and you know northern radios on or why are you doing this when I think everybody's a critic in our invasion knew what they everybody should be doing a good that everybody's away. And always sits back in light just enjoys what's being. Presented to them to no way does that too late. Hang around them the last marvel movie. They just slightly. Army and I. Ill and Captain America going again. They build the black panther you also pray no into the theater on this is boring yeah no no they did not gonna get that there yeah they just accept what's given I. And it's silly to me as this though is usually like live. Anything alive does not is like the subject for that. So what are some of the places that don't you love meg when you see that you're gonna wrestle at Wetherbee a city weather be a country. What are the places where you're just like I can't wait this is going to be fun. Of debt bombs easy W still yet still this day Lucia. Every time. With the crowd difference between legacies EW crowd in the neutral crowd as it is it really PW can be tough CW calculate. Honestly c.s are you of the rough this audience I've ever been around and been in front of stillness that. I pled that's what makes that tough elect sees levees audience is so demanding even if you can't win them over. If you win actually if you do win them over there's no audience in the world did you camp former front of whether it be kids playing mostly men drunk adults her way to beat you by teenagers. Yes if you didn't win over Assisi W audience you can new Russell anywhere in the world. For those that I don't listen are now today I mean I lighting I like to think a lot of people I listened are very in tune into like all the awesome independent wrestling Islamic they're not. What is us easy W how could you describe it post comments on this very mature audience very mature I mean it's that's what we're talking about with the opinions of you out of glass. Match and that's audience that missed the fan base that's been watching since like 2001. So they've seen everything there's nothing like the date you can do. That they haven't seen already there's a there's stands and in the audience had been merits swap isn't going to seize a B Sosa doesn't want to be seen seen in generic co. They've seen Alex Shelley's they seemed for again Mike dean Ambrose right John masa mixing and everybody can be seen them they grew up watching them. So there's nothing like really knew. Yeah how how do you impressive crowd I've seen it all the and then they've been they've been jaded since 2002. Yeah there are no I'm not they've done a mile backup but she's Sharia precedes it out yesterday I think he's about eight episode coup. You know. So they're all this Oleg literally sees every audience and walk in and they sit there and they they with the smug look and go impress me been committed similar runners on Erie are now entertain idea yes that's exactly what he's got a new audiences are. This leggings and it does that in this ladylike super crazy athletic old death this. Is always this is something different what do you offer that's different and entertaining ya gotta get the reaction fans. You know I've seen them boo people out of the building are seen past scene don't come back chance I've seen a hole like screw this match and the smash I can use up the you do it like I've seen them like. Literally calls matches and short because the audience took over so bad. If you watch a lot about a mania stuff a lot of them most this of the CW and is just but even ban matches avenues is the audience is just swarmed it took over the match. She's just on Sam like they're this is grueling. But if like you can all win over the audience there you can win no over anywhere. And there have been times midnight either it's gotten a better view Oregon the better Sony you know when you got to pull them aside and be like clock is there's devils definitely gotten the better of someone's yet never have a strong will be able to I mean it yeah. Yes oh yes in a that it did that tea that's Lisa GG AB oil company to have patty. LA because they can also see pollutants that come this can be sensed they can censoring like ol' we're getting tomb. Oh he's. He always lose and it our dog they can sense that sort of comic density I don't know watered the crowd yeah go for when the grew in the comics like stuttering over towards dot com Mike doesn't feel confident delivering movies his jokes Ayers stick. They geek is swarms the audience in the audience gets by B fill that bonus when the like the bad the chatter in my to do forgive bickering. In all that's happened to have in this committee comedy in heaven than wrestling the same way president and a time where you move when the time you've been most distracted and a match by some to now is going on outside of the match that you were wrestling and I think out those a fight that broke out on the caucus since in the around. Ali goes CW now Mozilla's easy W. But it was somewhere nothing like a fight broke down like on their residence just. Went and the right out there now the way so weasel like our slowdowns in the west fans as in the content. Okay are they out aria like losing your bag okay corner and I don't if they're going to be riots are we going to not be Elian wow but nothing like crazy enough and super like added as a world have a night nothing like that. What I enjoy about watching you also is it that a deal whether or be moved to whether BC's GW type stuff for west would be and I remember seeing you wrestle over an arrest a common went to Dallas wrestle mania now a lot of fun to that giant. Max I was going on. But you adapt and an income entertaining anywhere where there'd be a hardcore type of a match or whether B ones and have comedic moments and remembered there was stuff. Massa do we lost really in the middle of the match oh you guys just bust into Ross does uptown funk song yeah it's it's ridiculous and efforts of my guy. And then as he keeps going into you but the confidence. You guys are so committed to is that this is hilarious this is a lot of fun the crowd really add up. And obviously is old school wrestler is out there that don't necessarily like that and and are have been vocal about it. What's your take on that kind of night in an in that sense I mean it to me it feels like there's a place for all styles of wrestling and as long as it's entertaining it's entertaining. But it's. The body that somebody old the old regime does not understand it would scratch we have because the old regime there are guys dressed as Barber's there is guys yes you know mummies didn't regulars there's been comedy and wrestling since debut and I mean I've looked lovely lad that. I you know linked them just like. On to me is on the although it still Billick is a long as it always comes back to. Tom it being the competition and in wrestling. I always think it's fine yes. They as long as it always gets back like if they've like that if there's a massive slick all men is getting ridiculous others is like all this is funny how this game then it just like ages and completely goes away from the aspect of competition. Or wrestling. As is like OK and I just doing their for the sake of just. Think just. Is it this is don't don't don't go viral yet unclear is is a gratuity at this point is not like actual lay as long as somehow. Gets back to the expect of Breslin and competition as laid him a friend on and implement good buddies we pretty much. We kind of had the same argument with movies so like OK if you look at Jurassic Park great yeah. The concept of is already. Out of this world there's dinosaurs in 2016. You know the best that I the concept that is already we do this this this is Adam out of the box right are ready right. Now women like. We can except affected there's dinosaurs in this film. We can accept that record suspend reality at least has suspended it already absolutely so like you're in you're in the movie right here you're watching your bested and then there's a chase scene right from dinosaurs and all that. But then. Thought and this person starts flying. What I know best that you can't do that you know that that I can't believe this movie now I'm none invested. Oh you accepted affected there were dinosaurs like intercept the Pentagon and I I. And that's right when he could be entertained yet now they would that's the concept of wrestling all weeks up to these guys are dancing on this is funny. Okay now there's ice cream man in the ring wait now I know there's too much come out of it but they don't have to I guess is that this can that's where do you just disconnected because it's like just it is wit. Like left code complete left turn. Dutch airline that's the one that made you stop pulling write him and having fun OK Brett up right but I give me the girl is like so as long as it's still that box tested the lake. Pretty contained in order for wrestling to be able to do these well other outlandish things price you know we can except the fact enjoy Iran uses penis to foot people. You know we can use that we can we get except that right all man this funny ha ha and then that nobody gives back to wrestling. So to alternate way out so he's a great entertainer he's all right wrestler and yes funny moments on exactly right but is still was in the context of. Billion of that I have to ask Chris remembers that the weapons of mass destruction match and I grabbed the idea because I love the commentary missed in my match record to a bureau. And there's a moment where out where Marty Lamotte just grabs you. Well and ended ended and the boy's death and now here's what it sounded like. Okay. So we had those I'm gonna grab them by the nut sack. Absolutely. Absolutely tired hearing announcers choppy just bombs to I'm just crazy yeah I spent I think that's maybe that's what makes them to work yeah oh yeah I want to do also just and yet you're going on until all your time because I know that you just got off the plane came straight here. Now you're going to be doing girl I'm an. To USC got this all land on almost now assume that you guys some would you offer and then we go to a few months from now you were going to be coming back for. I'm beyond today M re a part of it all and I can't wait to be a part EST on the microphone there and but the fire wrestling is bringing you for a big independent show where it's going to be you taking on Cody Rhodes oh yeah Cody Rhodes obviously ever warm. Did you know the name and and recently when he left to die VWE Kimmel with a list of everything you want to do and here you are doing what you do in the two of you gonna meet. In the ring here in the northwest woods has got to be. I personally am beyond excited about this how do you feel about it I mean Cody every time I've met him and interviewed him. He's an unbelievable unbelievably great guy who has a lot of love for the art of wrestling and an and I can tell that's the same we view. I can only imagine what you guys are gonna put on and spurred circles going to be unbelievable. Ifill what he's looking to prove on independence and wrestling is the same thing I'm looking to prove as well we both have very similar. I don't motivation. You know he's how to prove he can speaking go any can wrestle the best people and this is what you've been missing out on for the past several years while he was come on TV. But arms on the same note I feel like come. Looking to prove that I can wrestle the best people and I can main event with anybody and I can do the same thing I on this what you've. This will be you've been missing out on me for this long but he is now you start to see it missile what you've been missing out on the holds the entire time so we both have this. I'm gonna lose I'm Gerri you're talking about this aren't ready for this idea. That very parallels do a rare move Beirut that actually will blow last week and I just an finally met him I'm in England. So I just medal for the first time we talked a little bit easy then he's looking for doing it does go ask about that because I mean I. Assuming you do on each and you're doing maybe even IC UW where you're you're doing it consistently and even more than WV where people are are wrestling all the time. There's a rhythm you get to know each other you you you can probably kind of quote unquote winning hit yet here do you guys. Haven't wrestled Merrick you're wrestling and however long what's the preparation for something like that you guys get a hold of each other or is it just something that I'm on OL's. It's so it is that's the beauty of pressing us so universal they are good I could go to Japan and like pick up of in any by and locker room and we just. To get the clicking and we just know like our man okay. Mean you this that did that roamed OK we got some good here a fillet with Cody were gonna be the we're gonna have that same type of thing. We have a different mind sets but at the same time though is lake comes together right because of wrestling is very universal language. You know and sing my music or my leg and everybody listen the same music every wants allow a bypass and yeah yeah like. The next few boys and Japan is the same thing as him actually ways here you know. I know different night you know I've played drums it's not right I I it's not like I can't. I can just go nor room with a cop a guitarist a bassist I've never met. And Zell took over the course of a few seconds you get and I'm the brother quick yeah you can understand what they're revive its exactly that I never thought about it like. I think the same exact wailing in pentagon. Got an during his helmet and oh yeah oh look like you we'd finish these other senses when SP in the same language at all. How hard is that cows and ask I always wonder about like two guys that the men are not asked to its only source pristine Euro zone cause some of the world's best but when you're wrestling guys that don't speak English and. My days this is universal like us a leg movement he was finishing like and say like sequence and you all India and the new Gilani who knew him and and as we knew we just finish each other signs that we all have the same understanding I'm wrestling right even if it's something different or different like. Mold we know like oh I should move slower for your question Austin. Change my body differently for you on this part because we know the rhythms you know what you did pick up on that rhythm you can wrestle anywhere I guess I it's almost like math. In on the fun that you find that format do you find that. That pattern need to do any equation. My if you figure that pattern now he just like our American use this to staggering in the arm to do this. And again you know I thought this works here this. The only team that's why could never really good wrestler sunset mask on terrible and I thought I did hit a terrible and you've got to my excuse me oh you're general America nobody has learned. But those Israel I figured out pattern throughout figure out pattern L all I got it. Yeah I com who's view is that works with a lot of stuff we'll wrestling is like the same way when you forgot a pattern you can manipulated. You can like shift things around in now a whole new thing no the wrestling is like a pattern. And a fillet. Calm. Everybody has their own way if you liked show each other your patterns. Then like it becomes a whole new thing. You see creating. Mean I was like please I compete doing getting with different bands and music yet all you use this all home what we usually do this though. Our man okay how to put that there we put that there and then like now you have a whole new song. Right and you know you community is that this paradigm of thinking yeah which is is. They can when you're doing anything that's artistic Dennis that's only horse to get inspired by whoever you're in a request that you that is the most inspiring wrestler you've been in a ring. I guess Ari points that is really upped her game. They are fox for sure yeah ricochet. And you got a guy I saw you America say going to be out doing enough the I've wrestled Tonya. I was very much size Zain. All one source Obama mentors as put out a posts on mr. Hanley and FaceBook like. There's five guys that influence me yep from like in some truly shift in mop my whole way of thinking wrestling. Adam Cole Sammy cal and rich swine air fox ricochet. Those like those five key guys then get a few of those guys and you're in the mood to it now Australia the Sammy I just saw him on the recent out yeah I was kind of cool all male I'm the stuff he does is insane I saw him when I went wrestle mania weekend. We went to a wrestling match and like midnight how Aaliyah yet it was like he wrestled. Behind Kay Hayes wrestles Jo and Ryan are you can't just array in resistant or nano was on there are that yes I was that they show actually other we're right next to each other I don't really got to let a 10000 people yeah I gather news. There's really go to bat him first person I see right next week Jake the snake Roberts like. This is not the moment to say yes but you're right now hey if I think Chris got the snake where the idea of truth today so you had to go several Jones daft. How we have said if you didn't go to upon Adam Foote did I was like at first I was like I don't know if I can go. After spending all day at the AT&T and I was like you know what. I'm the how many chances of ever gonna say that I got to go to a wrestling match at 12:30 in the morning. And in this so called delayed you get to see the biggest wrestling event with like to end Dallas right with that there be any get to go like a nice small intimate. I'm live shows so you get like that's like getting. The thing getting a huge banding go see your favorite underground man. And both equally entertaining for differently yes but I guy morale is my body in my you know I'm so glad we spent the money you make whatever amount of money you always. Got a two dollar hot dogs which was approved wage different and if we're roll yeah but no idea in general you're right I mean seeing guys that Frankie Tressel and get them like a hundred people like that was unbelievable dispute the fix them both yeah size and so much from looking at the clock I know you gotta get run inside sort of thank you don't know for coming out of bonds. I ordered the same Strickland not Tacoma shirt both cousins I got found today funny you know I got the I can represent my god he's here this studio but I have a lot of love for you and you can buy. Any of your staff a pro wrestling t.'s Docomo and you have a lot of great shirts available there. Support chain and then I will be seeing you in January yes there Akon out Cody Rhodes yes for the virus is going to die wrestling dot com right. Got to get the information about what's happening Darren that those tickets will be until sometime in the near future so yes I can't wait to see him and it's going to be a lot of us going to be awesome we're gonna look gonna give you good show and welcome back to northwest up thank you thank you for welcoming me nice and I is Aaron Beard Twitter is at Strickland saying yes tour mr. Graham -- insane perfect easy easy I'm easy to find everywhere Panama Tom hi. All that kind of I shirts. Please are you still thank you thank you.